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In this lecture and discussion he shares a rich understanding of Boston's Jewish community and its history.  He also situates the Bernstein family within this history, exploring its implications for Leonard Bernstein’s life and career and prompting further questions and discussion on topics that include the relationship between various Jewish immigrant groups, the Zionist movement in Boston, and Harvard University's quota system of admissions.\u003c/p\u003e (Summary)"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDr. Jonathan Sarna, Joseph H. and Belle R. Braun Professor of American Jewish History at Brandeis University, visited the Bernstein seminar on February 14, 2006. \u0026nbsp;He is an editor of The Jews of Boston (1995), and author of American Judaism: A History (2004), among many publications. In this lecture and discussion he shares a rich understanding of Boston's Jewish community and its history. \u0026nbsp;He also situates the Bernstein family within this history, exploring its implications for Leonard Bernstein\u0026rsquo;s life and career and prompting further questions and discussion on topics that include the relationship between various Jewish immigrant groups, the Zionist movement in Boston, and Harvard University's quota system of admissions.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"provider":[{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Harvard Loeb Music Library"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Harvard Loeb Music Library"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/018/original/hl_vertical_rgb_black.png?1639153553","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/291/546/small/sarna.mp4_1758041967.jpg?1758041967","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - sarna.mp4"]},"duration":8357.19052,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/291/546/small/sarna.mp4_1758041967.jpg?1758041967","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-listeningbooth.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/291/546/original/sarna.mp4?1758041951","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":8357.19052,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I have almost a draft of how we're going to handle the interview transcriptions and the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=0.0,7.7"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"technologies. We should have that. We're going to meet this afternoon, should have that by","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=7.7,12.2"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this evening. We will probably put that around by email and put it on the website to be sure","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=12.2,19.0"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that everybody knows how we're going to do it. But it's still, we're working out the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=19.0,22.96"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"process to streamline it. We're trying to set everything up so it's clean and quite","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=22.96,28.8"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"clear and the simplest way possible. And I must tell you my technology chops are not","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=28.8,33.6"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the best. So I'm very happy to have the help of Ryan and Mark and we will get this fixed","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=33.6,38.52"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this afternoon and then Sheryl and Stephanie who were the first ones kind of under pressure","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=38.52,44.52"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to get a transcript by next week. I will be sure that we have these very clear guidelines.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=44.52,53.52"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And what you're hearing with this, with what we've said in the last few minutes and what","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=53.52,57.32"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you'll be hearing more about in the last hour and getting a sense of is logistical","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=57.32,62.32"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"hurdles involved in mounting a joint research effort like this and they're considerable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=62.32,69.32"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Everything needs to be thought through and we just need to spend time as a group talking","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=69.32,73.92"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about those logistics and getting our procedures all in order.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=73.92,78.72"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And also want to hear if there's something that's not working. We need to know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=78.72,83.82"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One of the trickiest parts of working as a group is working as a group and trying to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=83.82,89.52"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"be sure it works well. How are we, Glenn? We're on. Terrific. I cede the floor to Sheryl","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=89.52,96.52"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kaskowitz.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=96.52,97.52"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I just wanted to take the time to introduce Professor Sarna. Professor Jonathan Sarna","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=97.52,104.28"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is one of America's foremost commentators on American Jewish history, religion and life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=104.28,108.92"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He was born in Philadelphia, raised in New York and Boston and attended Brandeis, the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=108.92,113.92"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Boston Hebrew College, Mer Kaz Harav Kook in Jerusalem and Yale, where he obtained his","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=113.92,119.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"doctorate in 1979.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=119.02,121.88"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"From '79 to '90, Dr. Sarna taught at Hebrew Union College Jewish Institute of Religion","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=121.88,127.06"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in Cincinnati, where he rose to become professor of American Jewish history and director of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=127.06,131.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Center for the Study of the American Jewish Experience. He has also taught at Yale, the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=131.78,136.62"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"University of Cincinnati and at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. Dr. Sarna returned","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=136.62,143.44"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to Brandeis in 1990 and now assumes the new Joseph H. and Bel R. 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He also serves","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=160.34,165.6"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as chief historian of the National Museum of American Jewish History and of the 350th","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=165.6,170.74"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Commemoration of Jewish Life in America, 1654 to 2004. The Forward newspaper has dubbed","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=170.74,177.18"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"him one of the 50 most influential American Jews. Dr. Sarna has written, edited or co-edited","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=177.18,183.42"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"more than 20 books and his most recent work, American Judaism, a History, has been praised","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=183.42,188.66"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as being, quote, \"the single best description of American Judaism during its 350 years","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=188.66,193.86"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on American soil.\" It won numerous awards including the 2004 Everett Family Foundation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=193.86,199.64"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jewish Book of the Year Award from the Jewish Book Council. So we are very pleased to welcome","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=199.64,205.3"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Professor John von Sarna. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=205.3,208.3"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"[ Applause ]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=208.3,209.3"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e Well, thank you. It's really a pleasure to be here and I'm grateful for the invitation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=209.3,217.3"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and to learn that I had a neighbor in Professor Ochey. I didn't know that. So all sorts of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=217.3,222.9"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"benefits. What I want to do is to give a certain amount of background into Boston and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=222.9,229.74"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'll try and weave Bernstein into the Boston Jewish community. Bernstein is born in 1918","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=229.74,241.5"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and by then already Boston is a community of about 80,000 Jews. 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You only begin and you'll see why in some ways","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=293.18,300.18"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this is relevant. You only begin to have an organized Jewish community in Boston in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=300.18,305.62"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"1843 and the first synagogue is Ove Shalom. It still exists. 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Sure sign that there was all sorts of disagreement","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=321.86,327.66"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"among the members and Lovers of Peace is a sign of what they hope will happen. It had","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=327.66,332.9"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"numerous divisions, but Ove Shalom was the third synagogue in New England after Newport","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=332.9,341.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and New Haven. Now, there is a kind of a rule of Jewish","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=341.02,346.94"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"communities. I don't actually know many exceptions and that is that where Jews achieve pioneer","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=346.94,354.9"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"status in a community, meaning when they're there at the very beginning, Indianapolis,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=354.9,359.9"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Cincinnati, San Francisco, to some extent New York, Jews fare better. They have the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=359.9,367.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"legitimacy that comes with being a pioneer, but when they're seen as latecomers and interlopers,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=367.78,376.46"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"generally it's very different and they fare worse. The reason that it's important that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=376.46,381.14"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Boston is a late community is to understand that Boston is in that second category. Jews","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=381.14,387.46"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were late to Boston. For a long time, there's something of an alien presence in the city.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=387.46,393.94"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They're not among the city's founders. They're not all that welcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=393.94,399.74"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"For much of the 19th century, Boston has a small Jewish community. As late as 1880, there","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=399.74,409.58"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are only, which is 38 years before Bernstein is born, there were only 4,000 to 5,000 Jews","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=409.58,419.14"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in Boston. Compare that to 75,000 Jews in 1880 in New York. 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A lot of the Jews in Boston, and this","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=426.86,434.26"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"distinguishes it from the Midwest communities, they're Central European Jews, those Jews","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=434.26,439.42"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in 1880, but actually if you look carefully, they are more Polish than German. You have","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=439.42,447.7"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a small German community, but it does not dominate the community, unlike New York or","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=447.7,454.38"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Cincinnati where the German Jews dominate. Ove Shalom is Polish. Temple Israel is the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=454.38,462.34"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"small German community. Now, one of those German Jews, by the way,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=462.34,467.9"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who was here in the late 19th century is Louis Brandeis. I have to mention him once in every","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=467.9,471.98"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"talk. It's in my contract. He doesn't play any role in this story, except to remember","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=471.98,480.42"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that he's an outsider in Boston. That's what's interesting. The Frankl's who give a job to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=480.42,491.54"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sam Bernstein, to Leonard Bernstein's father, they are German Jews. This firm, Frankl and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=491.54,500.7"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Smith, which brings him to Boston, is German. They see themselves as the absolute elite","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=500.7,508.34"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of the Jewish community. They worship at Temple Israel, if they worship at all. They have","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=508.34,514.38"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a sense that they will make it. But it's a small community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=514.38,521.62"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The coming of East European Jews, beginning, we usually date it to 1881 because of the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=521.62,528.42"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"assassination of Alexander II and the pogroms in Russia leading to a significant emigration","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=528.42,536.14"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in 1881, the coming of East European Jews transforms Boston. And that's important because","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=536.14,542.98"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the community that Bernstein is coming to is a community that has just undergone an","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=542.98,549.22"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"astonishing transformation from the point of view of the Jewish community. Keep in mind,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=549.22,556.1"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I said there were 4,000 Jews in 1880. In 1920, there are 80,000 Jews. So you get a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=556.1,565.06"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sense of 40 years total transformation. Almost all of those are Jews from Eastern Europe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=565.06,574.18"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, the significant Jewish community, East European Jewish community of Boston, those","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=574.18,581.3"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who considered themselves the elite of the East European community and who dominated","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=581.3,588.1"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Boston Jewish community, gave it some of its character, are actually Lithuanian Jews.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=588.1,595.38"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is technical. They considered themselves Litvaks. That's not identical borders to present","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=595.38,601.22"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"day Lithuania or even 18th century Lithuania. But they followed the Lithuanian traditions","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=601.22,608.26"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of East European Jewry. They had, as you'll see there, in the Jews","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=608.26,615.22"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of Boston, they had a substantial impact on Jewish education. Some of the great rabbis","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=615.22,620.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were Lithuanians, say, Louis Epstein, one of the leading modernizing rabbis. That's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=620.78,628.58"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the tradition. Sam Bernstein is not part of that tradition. 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And Bernstein comes from a little place, you won't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=674.7,681.42"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"find it on most maps, Berezdyv in the Ukraine. And his background is in Hasidism. He's heir","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=681.42,689.86"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to Hasidic music. 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Much more than the average East European Jewish immigrant does.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=908.66,914.74"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Many East European Jewish immigrants took two generations to rise up. 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It called itself, it even considered itself the greatest","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1069.18,1076.42"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"synagogue in Boston. That would have been disputed by its reformed counterpart. We call","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1076.42,1081.38"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it in Jews of Boston, it referred to itself as the Stadtschule, the city synagogue. But","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1081.38,1087.98"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"certainly was true of the East European congregations. Its rabbi was a very interesting man named","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1087.98,1098.14"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Herman Rubinovitz. And Rubinovitz had spent time in Western Europe and deeply believed","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1098.14,1108.66"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that the way to preserve Judaism for these upwardly mobile Jews was to stress beauty","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1108.66,1118.26"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and decorum and dignity. He had seen congregations in Paris, Berlin, and Vienna. He experienced","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1118.26,1128.38"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the music of those congregations, often with a choir, sometimes with an organ. He decided","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1128.38,1135.86"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to bring that to Boston. And he does. And introduces, which was unknown and quite controversial,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1135.86,1145.38"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he introduces into a traditional synagogue, you might have had it in a reformed congregation,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1145.38,1152.26"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but not in an East European traditional congregation, a mixed choir, meaning men's and women's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1152.26,1158.54"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"voices, and as distinct from a boys' choir, which a traditional congregation might otherwise","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1158.54,1164.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have had, and an organ. So you already have had in 1914 organ and mixed choir. Soon after","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1164.78,1173.3"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Bernsteins join, they engage a very distinguished Russian cantor named Iso Glickstein. And then","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1173.3,1185.86"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in 1928, and this is very important, in 1928, he is joined at Mishkan Tvila by a leading","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1185.86,1194.54"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"European Jewish conductor. I'd love to know more about this man. He is very significant","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1194.54,1200.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the early Bernstein story. His name is Professor, he always called himself Professor,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1200.78,1206.38"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which must have meant he served as a professor, Professor Solomon G. Braslavsky. Braslavsky,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1206.38,1213.42"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I suppose, means he had some roots in Braslav, which is a place name, but Braslavsky. And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1213.42,1219.26"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he is the music director, he is the organist, and he is also a composer. He's all three.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1219.26,1228.34"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And he brings to the congregation, listen to this quote, because at some level, you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1228.34,1233.62"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"could have heard Leonard Bernstein say this. He brings all kinds of musics, old and new,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1233.62,1239.98"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"conservative and modern. The main thing, Braslavsky insists, is that the music must be good and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1239.98,1247.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"traditionally Jewish in character. And this is the music that Bernstein hears when he","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1247.78,1255.54"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"attends those services, which he apparently did often. Professor OJ sent me this document,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1255.54,1264.82"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which I hope some of you have seen, or maybe we can look at at some point, of Bernstein","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1264.82,1271.46"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"late in his life, is interested in creating a Russian, Hebrew Yiddish cantata, as he calls","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1271.46,1279.14"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it. Should we put it up now? Sure, put it up, we'll talk about it now. I don't know","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1279.14,1284.1"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"how to do it. If I hit the button, it'll explode. I didn't want that. That's what it is. It's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1284.1,1295.94"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"not easy to read. Cantata on Hebrew and Yiddish. I was actually on my computer able to blow","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1295.94,1306.46"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it up, which you can't do here. But I wanted you to see a few things there. First of all,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1306.46,1312.1"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there it is. First real music I heard, what does it say in parentheses? Braslavsky. So","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1312.1,1322.7"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's not just me who's made this up. Bernstein is conscious. The first music I heard is Braslavsky,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1322.7,1333.14"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and in order to understand that, you have to know that Braslavsky is the music director","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1333.14,1338.22"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at Mishkin Tvila, and he is hearing it. Now, what is his entry? He has all sorts of interesting","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1338.22,1348.58"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"questions. You know, why do I want to do it? Nostalgia for youth, guilt towards my father.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1348.58,1354.5"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Is it my first real cultural exposure? Am I lacking a larger identity with a race, with","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1354.5,1360.22"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a creed, with a supernatural force? But the latter wouldn't account for so many Yiddish","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1360.22,1369.7"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"performances. What he's alluding to there is the fact that many of the folks who stressed","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1369.7,1375.82"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yiddish called themselves secular Jews. They were looking for a Judaism that was cultural,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1375.82,1382.66"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but that had no supernatural element. They argued that you would maintain Jewish identity","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1382.66,1389.22"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"through culture, through language, but without God. But that's not so much what intra- and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1389.22,1396.3"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then he goes on, lacking in any identity or seeking any identity. This is for the psycho","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1396.3,1401.66"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"history. But then he goes on. There is another piece. If you keep going down. Ah, I was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1401.66,1409.62"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"interested in this list of music. The idea is that the speaker will speak in English,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1409.62,1416.86"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but the singing will have the Hebrew and the Yiddish. But what struck me here is that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1416.86,1421.98"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the first two items on the list are two musical pieces that I presume he heard on Friday night.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1421.98,1429.86"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They are sung on Friday night in the liturgy, and I presume that he heard them on Friday","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1429.86,1436.86"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"night at Mishkan Tvila. And what I learned about Mishkan Tvila is that was the big music","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1436.86,1441.58"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"night. Those familiar with the Jewish liturgy know that is a much shorter service on Friday","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1441.58,1446.82"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"night. Moreover, because many Jews worked on Saturday in that period, many of them would","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1446.82,1452.62"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"come on Friday night to worship. And because the liturgy itself is fairly short, you could","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1452.62,1459.46"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"embellish it with this wonderful music, unlike Saturday morning, where if you embellished","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1459.46,1463.9"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it, you'd be there all day long. So it's much longer. 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It's actually a hymn about the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1470.26,1477.7"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"-- it's a hymn version of the essentials of Judaism as set forth by Moses Maimonides.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1477.7,1488.54"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Most Jews don't know that. They just know it as a hymn. And it's set to music. And Sholem","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1488.54,1494.18"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Aleichem is a well-known song in many Jewish homes to this day, Friday night, welcoming","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1494.18,1501.46"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Sabbath, originally composed in the period of the mystics in the 17th century, and becomes","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1501.46,1511.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"enormously popular. You welcome the Sabbath queen. And both of those would undoubtedly","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1511.02,1517.6"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have been sung at the synagogue. Honestly, I don't know what he meant by Judith. There","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1517.6,1525.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is a book of Judith, and I think there are various classical composers who do music to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1525.78,1530.58"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it. I don't know what he had in mind. I don't know which psalm is proud humility, which","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1530.58,1535.42"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is a contradiction in terms. The Song of Songs is, of course, a biblical book, actually.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1535.42,1543.22"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I doubt read it, Mishkan Tvila, but traditional Jews often read the love poetry of the Song","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1543.22,1548.9"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of Songs again on Friday night. But the Song of Songs also brings us to the next group","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1548.9,1556.74"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of music that interests him. The Song of Songs is read also liturgically on Passover. And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1556.74,1563.38"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"his last two suggestions are both Passover. The first is, \"And it came to pass at midnight,\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1563.38,1570.38"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and he parentheses writes \"Haggadah.\" That is a hymn that is still found in the Passover","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1570.38,1578.5"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Haggadah, those who know any Hebrew. It's \"Vayehi b'chatzi ha'layla.\" I do not myself","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1578.5,1584.86"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"know the music to it, but somebody must have created music. It clearly was once sung, and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1584.86,1591.66"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bernstein must have known it. He must have been heir to some piece of music. I'd love","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1591.66,1595.86"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to know what it was and bring it into my Seder. But it is part of the Haggadah, which","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1595.86,1602.1"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is the home liturgy on the first night of the -- or the first two nights of the Passover","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1602.1,1608.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Seder. And the second point, which is a very well-known Passover song, is Dayenu, which","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1608.02,1613.94"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is a kind of well-known thematic song that becomes normative. Even on the radio, if it's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1613.94,1621.14"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Passover time, you're likely to hear that music, much as there becomes iconic music","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1621.14,1626.7"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for Christmas. Dayenu becomes the kind of iconic music for Passover. So you have here","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1626.7,1634.34"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"hints of his early music. That's how I read this document. The first part being Mishkan","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1634.34,1640.62"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tefillah on Friday night, and the second part being the music of the Passover Seder, both","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1640.62,1649.18"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of which he would have experienced as a child. And I have a sense that what he is really","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1649.18,1660.3"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"saying is that this music that he heard growing up at Mishkan Tefillah influences his attitude","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1660.3,1667.34"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"forever after, in 1964. By the way, it also suggests, very importantly, whereas certain","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1667.34,1675.38"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"other composers didn't have a rich tradition of Jewish music, their music that they learned","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1675.38,1684.14"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was purely general music and didn't know Jewish music. What is so amazing about Bernstein","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1684.14,1689.82"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is he is heir to a tradition of following Jewish music that he's heard in the synagogue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1689.82,1695.34"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You certainly would not have heard that in -- had he gone to any other synagogue but","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1695.34,1701.1"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mishkan Tefillah. And I suspect that his belief that Jewish tradition and fine music are compatible","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1701.1,1708.06"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is in fact rooted in this childhood experience because that's what Mishkan Tefillah believed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1708.06,1714.66"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But it certainly would not have been the case had the family gone to Kihilath Israel or","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1714.66,1719.94"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Temple Emmanuel or any of the other congregations in Boston which didn't have this very strong","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1719.94,1726.86"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"musical tradition that so inspired him. And although I don't know the piece, Bernstein,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1726.86,1734.94"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we are told in the history of Mishkan Tefillah, actually sponsored the publication of Braslavsky.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1734.94,1741.94"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is the music director of Braslavsky's Unesane Tokef. The Netaneh Tokef in Sphardic","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1741.94,1747.82"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hebrew, but he sang it in Ashkenazic Hebrew. His Unesane Tokef is a central, well-known","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1747.82,1754.22"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"piece of music connected with the high holidays. One of the high points of the high holiday","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1754.22,1758.86"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"service is this stirring music to this prayer, the key point being, \"Who will live and who","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1758.86,1768.22"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"will die?\" You can imagine that this is easy to set to stirring music. This Braslavsky","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1768.22,1774.98"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"did a pen. It's a very long piece. I've never heard it. I don't know it. But it would be","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1774.98,1780.22"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"interesting to find it to see why a Bernstein in the '60s when I guess he goes into his","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1780.22,1788.62"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jewish revival, I sort of wonder he's spending so much time with African Americans. He sort","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1788.62,1793.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of has his own sense of revival maybe. I don't know. But anyway, at that point, he has his","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1793.02,1797.86"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ethnic revival and sponsors that. I point out, and then I'll try and move quickly because","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1797.86,1805.18"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I've naturally spoken too long. Another thing connected with Mishkan Tvila, in 1932, all","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1805.18,1814.1"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the books tell you that he attended his first symphony concert. That too is connected with","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1814.1,1821.26"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mishkan Tvila. That concert is something that Mishkan Tvila has bought a bunch of tables","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1821.26,1828.68"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at the concert. It was a benefit for the Zionist trade union movement known as the Hesedrut.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1828.68,1834.74"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The interesting thing is that the conductor at that concert is Arthur Fiedler. Arthur","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1834.74,1842.62"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fiedler, that's by the way where Bernstein heard Ravel's Bolero for the first time. It","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1842.62,1848.34"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"made an enormous impact on him. He also reports that even his father liked it. It helped to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1848.34,1854.9"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"suggest to his father that there was such a thing as music that could move people. In","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1854.9,1860.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"any case, what interested me is that Fiedler was the conductor. Because Fiedler was himself","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1860.78,1868.3"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jewish. His father had actually immigrated to Boston. So you have a Boston musical tradition","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1868.3,1875.9"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"involving Jews. Fiedler's father comes from Austria in 1885 to serve as the first violinist","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1875.9,1881.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of the symphony. And Arthur is a prodigy. Arthur joins the symphony at the age of 21,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1881.78,1888.14"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is conductor of the Boston Pops from the age of 30, I think until he dies and there's a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1888.14,1892.82"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"bridge for him and so on. Even I remember him as a very important local figure. Every","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1892.82,1900.5"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"year Arthur Fiedler would put on these concerts. I don't know much about the relationship between","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1900.5,1907.42"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fiedler and Bernstein. But the fact that a Jew could hold such an important position","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1907.42,1913.66"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in music must have had some influence. We forget it today. But in the interwar years,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1913.66,1921.86"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when you were thinking about a career, one of the questions you asked was, could a Jew","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1921.86,1926.82"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"possibly make it in this career? If your career in that period had been, I don't know,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1926.82,1932.18"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to be a bank president, it was hopeless if your name was Bernstein. If your career wanted","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1932.18,1937.62"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to be, I don't know, president of Harvard, it might be fine today, but it would never","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1937.62,1941.82"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have happened in the interwar years. There were just plenty of doors closed to Jews.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1941.82,1947.3"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the fact that Arthur Fiedler was known to be Jewish is very interesting. It's quite","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1947.3,1952.54"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"interesting when you look at Bernstein's early years, how many Jews he associates with. It","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1952.54,1958.34"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"cannot be accident. Koussevitzky admittedly is a kind of convert to Christianity, but","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1958.34,1963.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you have to understand that in the Russian context, not the American. It was a formal","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1963.78,1968.06"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"conversion in order to be able to be part of the Russian musical establishment. He always","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1968.06,1972.26"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"associated with Jews. Copeland, Blitzstein, he is part of a group of Jews who are making","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1972.26,1979.74"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"their way into music. And I'd love to know more about the Fiedler connection.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1979.74,1987.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bernstein, Sam Bernstein, as I said, to come back to that story, he succeeds. He does what","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1987.02,1994.22"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jews in Boston do in those years when they succeed. The rule was if you move up economically,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=1994.22,2001.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you move out geographically. Very different from, say, the Irish in Boston or the Italian","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2001.78,2007.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in Boston who tended to live with the family. Jews proved that they were moving up by moving","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2007.78,2014.42"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"out. And that's really why they move out to Chestnut Hill at the age of Bernstein is 15","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2014.42,2021.58"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at the age of in 1933. The wealthy, that is a move made with people at Miskintfila. It","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2021.58,2028.5"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is a reminder of these folks are serious in that synagogue. The wealthy members of the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2028.5,2034.22"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"synagogue are moving to Chestnut Hill. We better move to Chestnut Hill. And indeed,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2034.22,2038.86"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they move next to a significant member of the synagogue whom they soon quarrel with,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2038.86,2043.42"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but that's neither here nor there. This is early in Newton's Jewish history. There are","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2043.42,2049.34"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"only about 1,400 Jews in Newton in 1930. You don't really have a conservative synagogue","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2049.34,2055.1"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in Newton until 1935. That's Temple Emanuel. I don't think the Bernsteins were associated.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2055.1,2060.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/303","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Most of the Jews who come to Brookline in Newton are going to come after World War II.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2060.78,2065.34"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/304","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's when it joins and that's when Miskintfila itself moves to Newton. And notice it settles","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2065.34,2070.82"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in Chestnut Hill because that's where its wealthier members had settled in the interwar","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2070.82,2075.54"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"years. So it follows them. And similarly, Sam Bernstein follows the patterns of conspicuous","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2075.54,2083.54"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"consumption of these rising East European Jews by getting a summer home in Sharon. That","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2083.54,2090.74"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"becomes a kind of watering hole for wealthy East European Jews who go to Sharon in the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2090.74,2096.7"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/309","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"summer. It only has about 100 Jewish families at that time, not like Sharon today. Most","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2096.7,2102.58"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of those families left after the summer, just like New York Jews would go to the Catskills.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2102.58,2108.62"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Certain kinds of Boston Jews would go to Sharon. It's only after the war that you begin to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2108.62,2115.86"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have a Jewish community. Sam Bernstein actually settles in Sharon. Leonard is by then in New","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2115.86,2121.38"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/313","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"York, but Burton writes about it very unhappily. He was miserable in Sharon because there weren't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2121.38,2127.18"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/314","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"any Jews there. There were some very well-documented, I think we talk about it in Jews of Boston,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2127.18,2133.34"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/315","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"anti-Semitic incidents in Sharon as the Jewish community begins to rise. But today, it is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2133.34,2140.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/316","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a community with a Jewish majority, one of very few communities, not even New York City","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2140.02,2145.1"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/317","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"has a Jewish majority, but Sharon does.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2145.1,2149.18"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Just a couple other points. 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And Arthur Fiedler had gone to Latin School, and Teddy","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2193.98,2199.42"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"White, the making of The President, and the great art historian and critic, Bernard Berenson,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2199.42,2206.06"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"also a Jew again. Interesting how many cultural Jews have been in Boston. Nat Hentoff, Robert","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2206.06,2212.14"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/328","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Coles, these were the famous Jews at Latin School. And Teddy White writes, \"It accepted","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2212.14,2218.5"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"students without discrimination, and it flunked them with equal lack of discrimination.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2218.5,2225.26"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But apparently, Bernstein survived. He then comes to Harvard, which again is a kind of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2225.26,2231.46"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"rite of initiation for Jews. If you got into Harvard, you were -- so you know what Harvard","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2231.46,2237.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"means, but you were accepted as Jews into the priesthood of the elect. Remember that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2237.02,2242.7"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Harvard has a very strict anti-Jewish quota. I mean, it was much harder for Jews to get","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2242.7,2249.58"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"into Harvard. There's a new book called The Chosen about the quota system in these years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2249.58,2256.46"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think Harvard's is about 10%. Bernstein faces discrimination at Harvard. There are","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2256.46,2262.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/336","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"clubs that he can't be part of because his last name is Bernstein. But of course, he","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2262.78,2270.22"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"makes very important connections here, notably with Copeland, and gets great experience composing,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2270.22,2276.94"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"conducting, performing. He graduates in 1939, takes off for New York, and that's where my","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2276.94,2285.14"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"piece of this story ends. So I'll stop there and open it up to questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2285.14,2289.86"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e Thank you so much. \u003e\u003e Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2289.86,2293.34"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e Yeah, go ahead. \u003e\u003e So speaking of Ukrainian descent, Bernstein's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2293.34,2299.18"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/342","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"father Sam used the German pronunciation, Bernstein, as opposed to Bernstein. And we","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2299.18,2303.74"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"were wondering, given the dynamics between Eastern European and German Jews, which you've","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2303.74,2307.7"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"talked about, what do you make of this? \u003e\u003e No, I make --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2307.7,2310.58"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/345","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e And how common -- \u003e\u003e I make of it that he was a wannabe. That","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2310.58,2314.18"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/346","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is to say, he grew up not only East European, but after all, on the wrong side of the East","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2314.18,2321.7"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/347","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"European tracks. That is to say, looked down upon as Hasidic, not quite up to the intellectual","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2321.7,2328.54"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"rigor of Lithuanian, but his boss, the man -- and we have some hints that Burton has","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2328.54,2335.58"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that he truly looks up to this head of the company, who has been something of a mentor","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2335.58,2340.9"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to him. And he's German. And Bernstein wants to be German. This is quite common. You may","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2340.9,2350.5"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"want to take a look at an East European film. It's one of the last -- I think it's one of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2350.5,2357.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the last of the talkies -- I'd say one of the last of the silent films called His People.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2357.78,2363.94"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/353","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you'll see the same thing there of the son of the East European Jew. 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And there were many East European Jews who kind of Germanized.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2377.38,2384.9"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But it's complicated because, as we say, still seems to have loved certain elements","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2384.9,2390.94"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of his background. 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And I think that's really what's important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2488.9,2497.62"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/372","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You talked a bit about the changes to the neighborhoods where the Bernsteins lived.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2497.62,2511.22"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/373","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You talked a lot about Newton and Sharon. And I'm wondering if there's anything else","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2511.22,2515.5"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that we should know about the changes in Mattapan or Roxbury that were happening.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2515.5,2520.9"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, what's interesting is this is a period of very considerable tension in Roxbury, Dorchester,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2520.9,2530.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mattapan between Jews and their Catholic neighbors. Anybody, really, when we worked","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2530.78,2537.54"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/377","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on the Jews of Boston project, I was astounded. I think without exception, everybody we interviewed","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2537.54,2545.3"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/378","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and every memoir we read talked about being chased, being beaten up. Read Nat Hentoff","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2545.3,2555.62"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/379","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"talking about it or read Teddy White about how he took his life in his hands every time","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2555.62,2560.22"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/380","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he went to the Boston Public Library. Remember that Father Coughlin, the anti-Semitic radio","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2560.22,2566.86"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/381","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"priest is active in Boston in the 30s, by tradition at least. This has now been questioned","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2566.86,2572.42"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/382","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"by one person, but that Boston was the most pro-Coughlin of any American city. He gets","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2572.42,2578.58"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/383","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the keys to the city. And the tension between Catholics and Jews is enormous. By moving","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2578.58,2587.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/384","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"out to Newton, Leonard Bernstein escaped most of that. And that memoir doesn't talk about","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2587.02,2596.5"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/385","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this tension with neighboring Catholics. He escaped it, first of all, because Newton","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2596.5,2602.3"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/386","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was not nearly as Catholic. Newton was WASPy, but not as Catholic. And second of all, because","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2602.3,2606.58"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/387","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you just didn't live on top of the Catholics the way you did. Jews tended to live between","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2606.58,2613.46"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/388","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the parishes. There's a very interesting book by Gerald Gamm, essentially, Why the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2613.46,2621.42"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/389","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jews Left Boston and the Catholics Stayed. And part of what he shows you there is the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2621.42,2628.26"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/390","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"geographic patterns. The Jews lived really between the parishes, and you can see where","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2628.26,2635.82"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they needed to cross, what happened to them. So that would be, if we were teaching Boston","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2635.82,2639.98"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/392","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jewish history in those years, that's the big theme. And that's what all of the folks","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2639.98,2645.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/393","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who grew up there remembered. That is not apparently part of Bernstein's youth, and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2645.78,2652.14"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that makes him an exception. He's escaped all of those tensions by moving out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2652.14,2659.54"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Another thing I was wondering was about any relationship between the Jewish community","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2659.54,2664.58"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/396","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and the African American community in Boston, specifically because Bernstein talks about","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2664.58,2669.86"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/397","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"jazz and knowing jazz, not from the radio.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2669.86,2672.66"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/398","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's really a good question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2672.66,2673.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/399","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I guess we were just wondering if there were other border communities that we should","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2673.78,2677.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/400","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"know about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2677.78,2678.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/401","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's really a good question. We have some material in Jews of Boston. I mean, the answer","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2678.78,2687.14"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/402","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is that you do have some African Americans beginning to move out, although you have it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2687.14,2697.66"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/403","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in Roxbury, Mattapan, that community is going to change after World War II. 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The migration is very interesting, but it seems to me it's slightly","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2732.54,2738.7"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/408","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"earlier than this era.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2738.7,2743.46"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/409","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I can't really tell you. I think it would be a good thing to look at the extent to which","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2743.46,2749.34"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/410","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he has interactions with African Americans. There is some work on African Americans in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2749.34,2757.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/411","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Boston Latin School, and it would be interesting to know whether any of his classmates are","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2757.78,2764.42"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/412","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there from kind of the elite community. Much of the interaction that people remember is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2764.42,2774.94"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/413","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"really as you have the black migration northward after World War I, of course, they begin to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2774.94,2783.54"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/414","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"move in first to Roxbury and then to Dorchester. Really, Mattapan is a much uglier story, but","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2783.54,2795.62"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/415","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's a much later story. It's really a story of the '60s, and it has something to do...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2795.62,2803.14"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/416","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hilla Levine and somebody wrote part of that story. It's disputed by Gannon, the Jews","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2803.14,2808.58"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/417","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of Boston, but everybody agrees that Mattapan, unlike the earlier communities, changed very,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2808.58,2814.86"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/418","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"very quickly from white to black. It was rather ugly. You had the blockbusting tactics, and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2814.86,2825.06"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/419","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there's no question that there were people who made it happen, that it changed so very","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2825.06,2832.66"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/420","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"quickly. In 10 years, the community changes its character. 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A big Orthodox congregation closes up this","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2853.38,2859.5"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/424","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"congregation, of course, but I don't think Bernstein was involved in any of that. 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You did not have the fierce tensions between","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2887.1,2893.06"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/430","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Germans and East Europeans that characterized so many other Jewish communities. 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It's not accident, some of you may know that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2910.62,2916.94"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/434","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this is the first community in America with a Jewish federation that brings everyone together","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2916.94,2921.3"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/435","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in 1895. The reason, in my view, you could have that Jewish federation was in fact that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2921.3,2927.98"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/436","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they all got along because the German community was so small. Whereas in New York City, you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2927.98,2934.3"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/437","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"don't really unify things until the 1960s because the two sides didn't quite want to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2934.3,2940.9"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/438","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sit down together in quite the same way. So in that sense, it is a tight knit community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2940.9,2947.82"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/439","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It may well also be that East European Jews could feel like elite members of the community","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2947.82,2953.58"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/440","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"precisely because you did not have an entrenched Central European elite. I'm not saying you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2953.58,2959.26"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/441","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had nobody. Louis Brandeis is here, but it's very, very small. And it allowed for earlier","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2959.26,2970.14"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/442","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"immigrants who made good to really have power in the community. 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When I got to Cincinnati in 1979, it's still reported in the Jewish","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2982.9,2990.06"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/445","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"newspaper, so and so of an old distinguished German Jewish family got married to so and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2990.06,2996.66"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/446","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so without any descriptor. The second so and so was the descendant of the East European","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=2996.66,3004.06"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/447","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"riffraff like me. And this certainly did not take place in the Jewish advocate. I was shocked","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3004.06,3010.46"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/448","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when I got to Cincinnati and saw that they still maintained those old traditions. And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3010.46,3016.5"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/449","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Boston is different in that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3016.5,3021.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/450","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We know that Bernstein was an advocate for Israel. And we were just wondering if you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3021.78,3027.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/451","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"could tell us about the roots of Zionist movements in Boston.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3027.78,3032.54"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/452","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Excellent. Boston is one of the most Zionist cities in America. And the interesting thing","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3032.54,3041.22"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/453","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about Boston is you do not have significant anti-Zionism. And we talk a bit about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3041.22,3050.46"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/454","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In fact, in the Jews of Boston, there's an article on Zionism where we actually suggest","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3050.46,3056.06"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/455","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that the well-known flag of the state of Israel, that blue and white, star David, actually","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3056.06,3060.46"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/456","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"has its roots in Boston, Asquith family. But even if you don't buy that, there are reasons","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3060.46,3066.5"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/457","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"why it's so Zionist. First of all, the fact that Brandeis converts to Zionism and is so","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3066.5,3073.1"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/458","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"powerful in the Zionist movement, even World War I, legitimates Zionism. If the Supreme","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3073.1,3078.9"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/459","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Court justice, the great hero of Boston, can be a Zionist, surely anyone can. But there's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3078.9,3086.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/460","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"much more to it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3086.02,3087.86"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/461","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In my view, Boston was full of Irish nationalists. And that legitimated Zionism. They want to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3087.86,3096.3"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/462","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"restore Ireland. Jews want to restore Palestine. They had pretty well the same arguments. They","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3096.3,3100.98"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/463","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"talk to one another. They interact. They're interested in restoring language. They're","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3100.98,3106.58"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/464","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"interested in restoring language. So Boston, even if you look at the reform congregations,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3106.58,3115.26"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/465","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which in many places were anti-Zionist, you will see Boston never had significant anti-Zionist","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3115.26,3121.7"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/466","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"rabbis. I'm not going to say everyone was pro-Zionist, but it's astonishing that the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3121.7,3128.7"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/467","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"kinds of people who might have been strongly anti-Zionist elsewhere in Boston were.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3128.7,3136.22"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/468","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I don't know that Bernstein was really exposed to a huge debate growing up. All sorts","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3136.22,3147.1"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/469","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of people were pro-Zionist. And it was perfectly public. You had important Zionist conventions","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3147.1,3153.7"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/470","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in Boston. It was just the movement that Jews experienced. And the rabbi of Mishkan","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3153.7,3161.82"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/471","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tefillah is a very significant... But Novitz and later, Casis. I'm not sure how well Bernstein","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3161.82,3172.46"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/472","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"knew Casis. But in any case, they are deeply involved in Zionism. And it's not accident","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3172.46,3178.34"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/473","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that, as I mentioned, that first concert that Bernstein goes to is a benefit for the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3178.34,3184.86"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/474","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Zionist trade movement. That's not controversial. That's what we're all doing. Just as the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3184.86,3191.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/475","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Irish are building Ireland, we're building Palestine. And so Boston is distinctive. It","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3191.02,3198.22"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/476","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"would be altogether different if he had grown up in Cincinnati. Different story completely,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3198.22,3203.58"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/477","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and it would have been a very different kind of statement in my view.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3203.58,3208.86"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/478","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e You just mentioned Bernstein's orchestra concert that he attended. And that was a pop","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3208.86,3218.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/479","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"concert. One question was about whether the BSO itself was widely attended by middle class","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3218.78,3226.54"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/480","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jews at this time, if you know. Or whether Bernstein was sort of stepping outside.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3226.54,3231.74"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/481","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e I don't. You know, it's interesting to me, and that's why I mentioned Fiedler, because","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3231.74,3238.18"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/482","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what Fiedler wants to do is really bring music to the larger community. And that's what he's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3238.18,3245.38"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/483","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"remembered for. And that's why he is, you know, they have that bridge and so on. He","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3245.38,3250.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/484","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was very popular for that. And I was struck by the fact that, of course, Bernstein in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3250.78,3254.98"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/485","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"his own way also wants to bring music to a larger community that has a lot to do with","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3254.98,3260.9"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/486","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"his television presence and so on. So he clearly is inspired by this idea that music is not","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3260.9,3268.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/487","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"simply for the elite, by the elite, for the elite, rarefied and so forth. But the extent","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3268.78,3280.06"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/488","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to which, the only thing I would say is I was struck by the fact that there are Jews","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3280.06,3286.7"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/489","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"involved with the BSO very early. Clearly, being Jewish didn't keep you out of the Boston","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3286.7,3295.98"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/490","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Symphony Orchestra. It may have kept you out of the Dedham Country Club. It did. It also","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3295.98,3300.74"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/491","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"would have kept you out of the Brookline Country Club and most country clubs. But it does not","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3300.74,3305.1"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/492","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"seem to have kept you out of the BSO. And I don't know enough, you probably know more,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3305.1,3312.7"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/493","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't know enough about the different orchestras around the country to know which ones accepted","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3312.7,3317.86"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/494","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jews, which ones didn't and why. But the fact that you had, I know you had Jews in the orchestra","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3317.86,3324.22"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/495","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from the 19th century. It's a fascinating question. I don't know of anyone who's really","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3324.22,3328.22"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/496","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"studied it. I mean, I know that while the board of directors and the subscriber lists","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3328.22,3342.66"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/497","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are there, there are no Jews on that until the 1960s. The board of directors of the symphony","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3342.66,3349.42"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/498","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"has no Jews until the 60s. The BSO? The BSO board of directors. You don't find prominent","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3349.42,3354.22"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/499","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jewish philanthropists involved with the symphony until later. And I also have looked at subscriber","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3354.22,3361.26"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/500","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"lists. 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And it was dominantly German musicians","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3375.26,3382.06"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/503","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that made up the BSO when it was founded. And among those, there were many Jews, including","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3382.06,3388.06"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/504","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Archbishop's fathers. Interesting. Yeah, Aaron Freed does a book on the Jews of Boston before","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3388.06,3397.26"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/505","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the war. It's called The Jews of Boston Hours. It doesn't have an index and it's a kind of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3397.26,3400.82"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/506","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"compendium of data, but interesting data. And if you go through near the end of the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3400.82,3405.66"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/507","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"book, you'll find a little section on Jews in music in Boston. I didn't, except for Fida,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3405.66,3411.3"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/508","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I didn't know these names, but it's not my field, but some of you may know it. But it's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3411.3,3415.66"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/509","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"clear there is a Jewish musical tradition that he was aware of in Boston. But it's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3415.66,3422.06"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/510","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"interesting. I know, and this is more oral, I mean, a sense that in the last decades where","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3422.06,3429.34"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/511","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"these institutions have opened up, so Jews face a kind of, the Jewish philanthropies","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3429.34,3436.54"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/512","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"feel, oh, now the museums and the orchestra and so on that used to keep Jews out are now","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3436.54,3442.78"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/513","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"competing for that kind of money. Whereas once upon a time, all of the local money went","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3442.78,3448.7"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/514","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to the Jewish equivalent. Yes, we'll give to the Jewish hospital, we'll give to the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3448.7,3452.1"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/515","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jewish university because those other folks won't accept us. Is it different with the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3452.1,3457.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/516","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"POPs? \u003e\u003e Well, I have a little database. My dissertation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3457.02,3461.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/517","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is on the POPs, 1930 and 1950. I have a little database. And there are 30 concerts in that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3461.02,3469.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/518","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"time period that are devoted to Jewish philanthropies. That are sponsored by temples, sisterhoods,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3469.02,3477.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/519","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"band groups, Jewish youth groups, and also the Menorah Institute.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3477.02,3483.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/520","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e Right. Menorah was very popular. Menorah is cultural. It starts at the university level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3483.02,3489.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/521","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But this is, they have a very prominent intellectual journal. And the Menorah Society at Harvard","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3489.02,3496.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/522","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is very significant. This was prior to Hillel. This was the group of intellectual Jews, more","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3496.02,3503.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/523","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"cultural, I would say, than religious. And so that suggests that the Jews gravitate","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3503.02,3510.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/524","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"toward the POPs. And Washington gravitates toward the symphony is what you're suggesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3510.02,3517.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/525","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e Well, I'm not actually suggesting that because I'm not sure who is in the audience","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3517.02,3522.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/526","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for the symphony. Because it's only at the POPs that you have these special nights that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3522.02,3526.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/527","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are sponsored by the community. Whereas that doesn't, that sort of setup doesn't even","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3526.02,3531.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/528","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"occur. So I'm not sure that they weren't actually at the symphony. But I know for sure","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3531.02,3536.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/529","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that they had these nights. \u003e\u003e Good. Okay. That's very interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3536.02,3543.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/530","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e Also related to the tensions between cultural and religious Judaism. We were wondering,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3543.02,3548.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/531","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you talked a lot about Boston Latin and Harvard being gateways for Boston Jews. And we were","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3548.02,3554.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/532","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wondering if the students at these institutions tend to be more assimilated or if they retained","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3554.02,3560.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/533","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"their Jewish lifestyles. \u003e\u003e You know, that second generation clearly","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3560.02,3567.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/534","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"tended to break away. You have to go person by person. I mean, the generalization, of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3567.02,3577.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/535","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"course, was that they moved away. And certainly to go down that list I read to you, you know,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3577.02,3584.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/536","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David White talks in his autobiography of how he eventually breaks down and eats pork.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3584.02,3590.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/537","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think in China when he's fed there and all of that crowd retained strong Jewish","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3590.02,3601.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/538","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"identity but not a deeply religious identity. Clearly there are plenty of second generation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3601.02,3613.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/539","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jews who are deeply part of religious life in Boston. And Michigan is eager to keep them in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3613.02,3622.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/540","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as are the other conservative synagogues. Until recently this was a very significant conservative","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3622.02,3629.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/541","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jewish community by which I mean that although you had prominent reform congregations, the majority","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3629.02,3635.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/542","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of Boston Jews would identify as conservative Jews and many of the largest congregations were","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3635.02,3644.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/543","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"conservative. 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Probably the conservative would have made his wife who","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3692.02,3703.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/551","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"converts at Michigan Tfilo would have been much easier to do conversion at Michigan Tfilo than","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3703.02,3709.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/552","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"had they gone to an Orthodox synagogue to have done that. So those would be some of the kinds","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3709.02,3717.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/553","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of differences. \u003e\u003e Now, remember, there were still Jews who got into Harvard, although if you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3717.02,3723.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/554","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"actually speak to many of them, they felt pretty isolated. Now, some of them, unlike Bernstein","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3723.02,3729.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/555","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who lives there, Boston Jews, some of them were simply commuters and commuters never feel part of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3729.02,3735.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/556","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the university community the way those who live on campus do. 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And it got a lot of attention. It was something even --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3761.02,3770.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/560","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I knew Harry Wolfson who was the Jewish professor, professor of Jewish studies at Harvard","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3770.02,3776.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/561","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"really in all of this period. I don't know if Bernstein had any connection with Harry Wolfson,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3776.02,3782.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/562","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but he was kind of a symbolic Jew. He used to call himself a non-observant Orthodox Jew, meaning","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3782.02,3789.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/563","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he was Orthodox in his beliefs, but not observant. Wolfson was one of the greatest minds at one","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3789.02,3797.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/564","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"point called the sage of Harvard, one of the greatest minds here. He had his own key to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3797.02,3802.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/565","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Widener Library was the first one there, the last one to leave. As you can imagine, he didn't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3802.02,3807.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/566","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have a family. They would never have put up with it. He used to keep his manuscripts in the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3807.02,3812.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/567","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"refrigerator. It literally happened when my father asked him, you know, why is it true that you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3812.02,3818.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/568","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"keep your manuscripts in the refrigerator? To which Wolfson replies, what else should I keep","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3818.02,3823.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/569","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there? And he ate all of his meals at the faculty club. 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And you could tell, even","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3832.02,3841.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/571","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from the way he spoke about President Lowell, whose name he always intentionally","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3841.02,3846.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/572","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mispronounced, President Lovell, he would call him, and I'm sure that was conscious, what it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3846.02,3854.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/573","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"meant. So it's not always easy. You have to pick up hints. But there is a very long chapter","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3854.02,3860.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/574","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on this now in this new book, The Chosen. It's about 700 pages. And I've dipped in, but I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3860.02,3866.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/575","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have to say it's more than I wanted to know at the moment on the subject. But for you, it may","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3866.02,3871.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/576","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"be worth looking at if you're interested, because he's done astonishing research on the quota","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3871.02,3878.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/577","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"system and the whole sociology of the quota system at Harvard, Yale, and Princeton. 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So you brought them in because you felt that it would be easy to turn them into","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3932.02,3940.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/585","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Boston Brahmins, so honorary Brahmins. 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And there is thinly veiled anti-Semitism there, although there are","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3972.02,3978.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/590","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"certainly other issues at stake. They saw Brandeis as a radical. But it's interesting that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3978.02,3986.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/591","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Brandeis turns against them. Some have argued because at the end of the day, he realized he may","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3986.02,3992.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/592","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have done better than all of them at Harvard, but he was still a Jew. And that tradition certainly","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=3992.02,3998.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/593","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is maintained. 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And those kinds of hurts had an","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4014.02,4024.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/596","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"unconscious impact, although I don't remember ever seeing Bernstein talk about it. The closest I've","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4024.02,4030.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/597","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"come is this hint that that's why he wants to be a Brandeis and goes to some considerable trouble","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4030.02,4036.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/598","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to commute there when it's founded. And some of his friends are also involved, Irving Fine being","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4036.02,4044.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/599","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the most important one there. \u003e\u003e Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4044.02,4050.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/600","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e Will you humor us and see if we can open this up to any other follow-up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4050.02,4056.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/601","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e Great questions. Now I make it up. \u003e\u003e Mark?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4056.02,4062.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/602","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e Thanks so much for a great introduction. I wanted to return to the paper above. Maybe you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4062.02,4068.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/603","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mentioned this and I didn't take a note on it, but it seemed to me that you were indicating that the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4068.02,4074.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/604","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"first four tunes he probably heard in synagogue and were probably part of the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4074.02,4082.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/605","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"modern and traditional mixture, whereas the second list were from the Passover Seder, therefore,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4082.02,4090.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/606","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this part I didn't know if you mentioned, therefore he probably heard them more at home. \u003e\u003e Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4090.02,4096.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/607","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e And given that his father has this Hasidic background that might not be the same as the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4096.02,4102.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/608","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"synagogue's musical background, how much weight would you put to speculating that his father is bringing in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4102.02,4112.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/609","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"psalms from his youth into the home Seder versus this type of repertoire or the music they're going to hear in the shul?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4112.02,4122.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/610","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e I think there are really three. The first two, the middle that I can't really identify, I don't know","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4122.02,4128.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/611","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what -- I know what the book of Judith is, but I don't know what he had in mind. And I really -- I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4128.02,4134.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/612","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"tried to figure out what proud humility, which psalm he would have had in mind, and I couldn't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4134.02,4140.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/613","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"quickly figure that out either. I got it yesterday. And the last three, Passover. I think that is","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4140.02,4146.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/614","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"-- Song of Songs may or may not be thinking of Passover, although it is connected in the liturgical","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4146.02,4152.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/615","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"year in the last two are Passover songs. I think that's very likely. I've got to imagine that Dayenu,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4152.02,4159.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/616","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's the very last song there, there's really only one traditional -- it's such a traditional piece of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4159.02,4167.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/617","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"music. And I don't know its history, but it becomes iconic quite early that that becomes known.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4167.02,4179.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/618","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The other probably was a tradition that his father brought in. And it's particularly interesting to me","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4179.02,4188.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/619","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"because it's a lost tradition. You know, I actually know something about some of these songs of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4188.02,4195.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/620","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Passover. And I don't think I've ever heard a piece of music connected with the -- there's a chant,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4195.02,4206.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/621","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but not a kind of music that you would want to put in your cantata for -- and it came to pass at","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4206.02,4216.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/622","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"midnight. So I'd love to know what tradition it was. And it would be a kind of interesting thing to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4216.02,4223.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/623","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"find out whether some of the Hasidic -- it would be a good thing to ask a Hasid who knows Hasidic","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4223.02,4231.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/624","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"music whether there's some significant piece of Hasidic music for that. And that might suggest","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4231.02,4240.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/625","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"something. \u003e\u003e And through that we might be able to trace the specific Hasidic lineage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4240.02,4245.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/626","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e Right. The lineage and what traditions of Hasidic music he was heir to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4245.02,4255.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/627","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e Is it also possible that it's not so divided synagogue versus home? When you said that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4255.02,4260.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/628","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Shalom Aleichem is something that's sung in synagogue on Friday night, it occurred to me if they were","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4260.02,4265.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/629","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at home doing a Friday night service, they might also sing Shalom Aleichem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4265.02,4269.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/630","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e Absolutely right. It would be part of a home ritual. I sing it on Friday night as well. And","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4269.02,4276.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/631","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"absolutely could be. Although we don't remember an account of this deep Friday night home ritual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4276.02,4285.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/632","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And indeed, you see, the very act of having a Friday night service implied that you were not","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4285.02,4293.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/633","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sitting down to have a long Friday night dinner. Because instead of having that, you had","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4293.02,4300.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/634","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"transferred religion, so to speak, from the home to the synagogue. My guess is that Sam,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4300.02,4306.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/635","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bernstein, like so many people in this era, were six days or perhaps five and a half days a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4306.02,4311.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/636","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"week. Saturday morning was not a time he could have gone to worship. 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You would have had some kind","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4349.02,4356.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/643","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of post service reception. All of which was really part. And we know very well, even in my","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4356.02,4364.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/644","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"day, a Friday night service was very popular in Boston, especially in the winter months.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4364.02,4372.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/645","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"More than in the summer months when it gets dark early, you would have the 7 o'clock services.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4372.02,4380.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/646","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And they were ubiquitous. At a certain point in time, but not in the '20s, you begin adding the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4380.02,4390.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/647","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"bat mitzvah to that Friday night service. Certainly is common by the '50s. I just don't know when","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4390.02,4398.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/648","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the word begins, the bat mitzvah. In my American Judaism, I didn't bring it. I have some data on","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4398.02,4406.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/649","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the spread of the bat mitzvah. And one can get some possibility. I don't think it's critical to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4406.02,4412.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/650","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"your findings anyway. \u003e\u003e Thanks for coming in. I have a question. Talking about the mixed","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4412.02,4420.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/651","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"community. I was thinking about the role of women in the Jewish community. There's this sort of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4420.02,4430.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/652","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"relationship between Sam and Jenny Bernstein in their domestic life. This is occurring against the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4430.02,4436.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/653","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"background of what I assume to be a very domestically centered community. So I was wondering if you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4436.02,4442.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/654","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"could trace out how the women worked in the Jewish community in Boston. \u003e\u003e It's a very interesting","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4442.02,4452.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/655","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"question. First of all, you always have to remember that you can't generalize from the group to the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4452.02,4460.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/656","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"individual. Because the individual may be an exception. So I don't really know anything about the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4460.02,4466.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/657","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"extent to which Jenny was interested in Mishkan Tvila or religion or what. As a rule, we know that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4466.02,4476.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/658","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in a European setting, women rarely went to the synagogue. And it was really a place for men. In","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4476.02,4484.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/659","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"America, where religion was very much in women's domain, Jewish women early on, already in the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4484.02,4492.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/660","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"colonial period, you hear many more Jewish women coming to synagogue. And that continues the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4492.02,4498.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/661","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"tradition. And indeed, part of assimilating into America is that women who once did not go to the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4498.02,4506.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/662","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"synagogue begin more and more to be part of the worship. So much so that today, in reform","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4506.02,4514.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/663","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"settings, you very frequently find far more women than men, which is true, of course, in most","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4514.02,4522.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/664","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"churches as well, Protestant and Catholic alike. My friend here teaches American religion, wrote","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4522.02,4534.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/665","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"an essay in which she argued that American religion is women's history. So important to women","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4534.02,4540.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/666","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in religion. And that has a big impact on Judaism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4540.02,4548.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/667","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, at Mishkan Tvila, you had a mixed choir. You had mixed seating. But certainly, in the years","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4548.02,4558.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/668","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bernstein was there, men had many more opportunities than women. Men could lead the service.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4558.02,4564.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/669","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Women could not. Men could be called to the Torah. Women could not. It was a conservative","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4564.02,4570.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/670","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"congregation, as I say, on the left end. But it's only after the war that you have the beginnings of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4570.02,4576.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/671","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the kind of egalitarian conservative Judaism that we would know today. Many conservative","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4576.02,4586.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/672","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"synagogues had significant sisterhoods. I do not know the extent to which -- that's something one","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4586.02,4592.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/673","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"should probably find out. \u003e\u003e You have a book of the brotherhood, a historical book that we got on","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4592.02,4598.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/674","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"reserve that they gave us when we were there a few weeks ago. But I have not seen a sisterhood book.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4598.02,4604.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/675","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e Very often you have lists. It would be interesting to know whether she is involved in the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4604.02,4612.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/676","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sisterhood. One has somehow a sense that she is less involved. That was just -- I don't know why","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4612.02,4620.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/677","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm not interested in that. \u003e\u003e I think from Burton's book -- \u003e\u003e Carol just made the point.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4620.02,4626.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/678","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e We have dealt with going to the synagogue now recently. We have dealt only with women.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4626.02,4632.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/679","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e Right. \u003e\u003e That's one thing. Another is in terms of echoes of life, we have heard lots of stories","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4632.02,4638.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/680","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about Bernstein. One of them from these women is that Jenny was seen at services constantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4638.02,4646.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/681","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e That's interesting. \u003e\u003e They are talking about probably the '50s and '60s. 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And as a conservative synagogue, it would have welcomed that. You had -- I can","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4670.02,4680.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/685","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"remember at Kilath Israel growing up that you had families, old men and old women both coming","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4680.02,4686.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/686","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"together. And there were places where it was the men who came, the women were not interested and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4686.02,4692.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/687","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"vice versa. So you had all three possibilities. And it would be interesting to know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4692.02,4698.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/688","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e Also, though, hearing memories of the Bernsteins, Sam is characterized, at least by people I've","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4698.02,4706.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/689","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"talked to at the synagogue, as a leader. You don't hear that word in touch with Jim. 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One has a sense she would have been quite happy to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4720.02,4726.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/692","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have stayed in the midst of the intense Jewish community of Dorchester, Roxbury, Mattapan for much","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4726.02,4736.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/693","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"longer. And remember, it was not such a simple matter to get from Newton to Mishkant Phila. That","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4736.02,4746.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/694","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was a considerable commute at that point. And that must surely have taken them away from that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4746.02,4754.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/695","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"world. \u003e\u003e It may also reflect gendered patterns in driving and access to automobiles. \u003e\u003e Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4754.02,4762.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/696","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e Can I ask a quick question? When you made the comment earlier that you said had Bernstein grown","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4762.02,4770.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/697","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"up in Cincinnati, the story would have been completely different. Is there anywhere else in the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4770.02,4776.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/698","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"states, any other American Jewish community that you can think of that is comparable? I guess I'd","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4776.02,4782.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/699","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"say the most traditional, the Boston Jewish community is during the period of Bernstein's life","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4782.02,4788.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/700","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"roughly. \u003e\u003e That's a dangerous -- \u003e\u003e There's no one else to question. \u003e\u003e Of the major communities,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4788.02,4800.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/701","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it seems to me that Boston is distinctive. I'm thinking of the major coastal communities, which","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4800.02,4812.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/702","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"each is distinctive in its own way, but Baltimore is entirely different kind of tradition. New York","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4812.02,4819.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/703","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is certainly different. Philadelphia, different with its long colonial past and significant German","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4819.02,4829.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/704","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"community. Chicago is different in a different way. Because of its very rapid growth, it has a very","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4829.02,4839.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/705","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"significant German community in Chicago. \u003e\u003e Texas is all German all the time. \u003e\u003e Right. Texas or","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4839.02,4845.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/706","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"exactly. The East European Jews are not going to get -- and you're going to have a distinction there","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4845.02,4851.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/707","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as in much of the south you have synagogue Jews and temple Jews. And in a place like Memphis, I'm","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4851.02,4859.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/708","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"not sure they met each other yet, but you certainly had a different tradition. One always gets a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4859.02,4867.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/709","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"little nervous about this thing. But it does seem to me that in that respect, Boston is somewhat","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4867.02,4877.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/710","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"-- is in many ways distinctive. I do think I would say that in communities where Jews were present","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4877.02,4890.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/711","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"early, like San Francisco, like Cincinnati, yes, you did have Jews who were involved in high","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4890.02,4897.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/712","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"culture by virtue of the fact that they were there so early. But they tended not to be the children","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4897.02,4905.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/713","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of East European Jews unless they had a certain patron. And then the story would have been how","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4905.02,4911.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/714","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"central European patron had helped this brilliant East European prodigy to move up. And we don't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4911.02,4923.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/715","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have that kind of story here. \u003e\u003e I have a question I want to ask. It has to do with John F.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4923.02,4931.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/716","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kennedy, Boston Jews, and Bernstein. And in Leon Jicks' chapter, he talks about Kennedy having","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4931.02,4939.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/717","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"been trusted by Boston Jews. And I find that really interesting because Bernstein was so close to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4939.02,4945.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/718","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kennedy, so admired him. The Cottage Symphony that we hope listened to for today was dedicated to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4945.02,4953.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/719","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kennedy. I just wondered if you wanted to riff on that a little bit. \u003e\u003e Yeah. Kennedy -- it's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4953.02,4959.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/720","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"interesting because, of course, Kennedy's father coming out of the older Catholic tradition doesn't","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4959.02,4966.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/721","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have a lot to do with Jews, has a rather bad record in terms of what we know in his views in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4966.02,4976.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/722","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"World War II. And Kennedy, the son, long had Jewish friends and associates. There were very","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4976.02,4986.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/723","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"-- the early Jews in politics here were very close to Kennedy. If you read, there's a private","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4986.02,4994.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/724","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"unpublished autobiography, but there will be a copy here by a judge named Weinstein, Louis","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=4994.02,5004.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/725","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Weinstein maybe? And he talks about this closeness with Kennedy there. And there were others.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5004.02,5015.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/726","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kennedy grows up in Brookline. So he -- by the time Kennedy's growing up in that area of Harvard","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5015.02,5023.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/727","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Street in Brookline, there were significant Jews who he surely knew and that must have been --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5023.02,5029.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/728","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"must have made some impact. If you go there now to the Kennedy House in Brookline, it's a very","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5029.02,5035.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/729","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jewish area, but there already that had Jews and killeth Israel. He saw all the time marching up","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5035.02,5043.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/730","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to Harvard Street. And his early political career is very significantly assisted here by Jews,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5043.02,5056.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/731","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so much so that Kennedy knew how to make jokes. There's a story told -- I'm not sure of all the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5056.02,5072.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/732","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"details, but when Kennedy was given a Torah, which in those days was the tradition, he was given","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5072.02,5079.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/733","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Torah and I don't know, maybe held it upside down or something. And the story is that one of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5079.02,5086.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/734","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Jewish labor leaders said, Mr. President, you're holding it wrong. And Kennedy says, oh,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5086.02,5092.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/735","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"don't you know? I'm reformed. And in order to make that joke, you had to know something about","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5092.02,5100.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/736","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"how the Jewish world worked. And so he -- it's not at all surprising to me that he was part of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5100.02,5112.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/737","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that group. But I think if you look, you'll find that some of the Miskantilla crowd is especially","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5112.02,5120.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/738","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"significant in funding Kennedy's campaigns. And he certainly had a lot of ties. So it's an","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5120.02,5131.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/739","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"interesting question. \u003e\u003e One wonders if also Harvard could have been a connection. \u003e\u003e Yeah,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5131.02,5139.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/740","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's also right. \u003e\u003e Scott and then Lilly. \u003e\u003e You talked about the exception to the music","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5139.02,5146.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/741","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"profession, both with their participation in the Pops and probably in the BSO and also with","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5146.02,5153.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/742","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fiedler. Why do you think it was that music was such an acceptable profession for Jews? \u003e\u003e","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5153.02,5160.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/743","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, that's -- I mean, there are two questions. One is why Jews are interested in music and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5160.02,5165.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/744","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"second is why did they accept them within the world of music, which are very, very different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5165.02,5170.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/745","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, Jews had a musical tradition. I mean, later it's kind of obscured, but you had a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5170.02,5179.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/746","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"klezmer tradition, you had an interest in music. I remember King David had some interest in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5179.02,5185.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/747","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"music. So, I mean, you can take this. It is really not correct to assume that there was no --","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5185.02,5192.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/748","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, it was a purely cerebral tradition with no interest in music. And it is clear that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5192.02,5199.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/749","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there were -- and just look at Italy, it's clear that there were places where there was a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5199.02,5205.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/750","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"strong internal Jewish musical tradition. The acceptance -- I mean, you know, music had this","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5205.02,5214.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/751","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sense that it is international, the international language and so on, and maybe that's why it's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5214.02,5219.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/752","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"accepted or it may have been tradition. You would know much more about this than I would,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5219.02,5224.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/753","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"whether there were traditions that in music, you know, it's just the quality of the music and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5224.02,5228.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/754","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we pay no attention to the composer is, of course, notice that African Americans have a role","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5228.02,5234.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/755","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in American music long before you have African Americans who are, you know, accepted in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5234.02,5243.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/756","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"society. But you would want to ask someone who has worked in the sociology of music to get a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5243.02,5250.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/757","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"better sense of how you drew lines between the elite and the non-elite and especially the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5250.02,5260.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/758","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"kinds of music. I have a sense classical music is totally different than your ability to come","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5260.02,5267.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/759","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"up with other kinds of music. I have even wondered whether the fact that Fiedler is with the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5267.02,5271.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/760","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pops is a statement. They're that kind of music. But if you want to have classical music, that's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5271.02,5279.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/761","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for the refined folks. But that's only a hypothesis that would really need to be looked at.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5279.02,5290.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/762","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e And Lily, did you have a question? \u003e\u003e You need to speak louder so the microphone will","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5290.02,5295.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/763","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pick up. \u003e\u003e So he's a very religious person by nature? \u003e\u003e That's interesting. How do you","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5295.02,5302.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/764","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"define very religious? I mean, if you define very religious the way, I don't know, what's the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5302.02,5310.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/765","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"name of your rabbi here, I would define it the answer is clearly no. He didn't worship three","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5310.02,5317.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/766","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"times a day. He didn't keep a kosher home. He certainly didn't keep the Sabbath. By the way,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5317.02,5323.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/767","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's almost impossible in America to be deeply involved in music where so many of the concerts","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5323.02,5329.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/768","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are on the Sabbath and Jewish law doesn't permit you to play music on the Sabbath. So I mean,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5329.02,5336.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/769","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in that regard, certainly not. But you have a sense, nevertheless, of a spiritual person who","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5336.02,5349.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/770","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is deeply in touch with Jewish heritage, who not only is in touch with it, but wants to make it","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5349.02,5359.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/771","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"part of American music. He doesn't rename his material to efface its Jewish origin. We know","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5359.02,5367.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/772","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"exactly where it's coming from. And that's significant. There are people who argue a lot of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5367.02,5373.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/773","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"American music has certain Jewish roots that are covered over, that Irving Berlin and others took","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5373.02,5379.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/774","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"music that they remembered and Americanized it without giving it any credit. But here you're","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5379.02,5385.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/775","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"dealing with somebody who is very open about what he's learned and is deeply committed, I think,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5385.02,5397.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/776","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to Jews, Jewish peoplehood, Jewish identity. And remember, unlike today, they are living in a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5397.02,5407.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/777","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"world where it was assumed that you didn't choose your Jewish identity. You were Jewish, just as","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5407.02,5413.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/778","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"some people were black and then some people are Asian. You are Jewish. Harry Wolfson, whom I","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5413.02,5421.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/779","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mentioned earlier, wrote as a young man, some people are born blind, some people are born deaf,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5421.02,5427.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/780","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"some people are born dumb, some people are born Jewish. I'm not sure. That may tell you something","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5427.02,5435.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/781","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about what Wolfson thought of his Judaism that he put it in that context rather than some people","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5435.02,5441.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/782","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are born Asian and so on. But nevertheless, it was seen as -- I mean, the word that is an invented","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5441.02,5451.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/783","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"word, the word doesn't come into existence until the '30s of peoplehood. Earlier, Jews would have","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5451.02,5457.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/784","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"used the word race. And certainly, Bernstein deeply saw himself as part of that Jewish people","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5457.02,5465.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/785","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with its heritage and a heritage that he seems to have been proud of and wanted to bring forward.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5465.02,5473.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/786","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's at least my sense. \u003e\u003e I think we should leave it there. That is just extraordinary. I think","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5473.02,5479.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/787","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you have served as a bridge getting us into the meat of the discussion of the class and a bridge","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5479.02,5485.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/788","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"between the historian of Boston and the Jewish community and someone who has grown up and lived in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5485.02,5491.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/789","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Jewish community. So you talked about bridges, but I think you have done it. And I think on","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5491.02,5497.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/790","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"behalf of all of us, we thank you so warmly for not only sharing your knowledge, but you have gone","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5497.02,5503.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/791","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to a great deal of trouble to deal with the literature and the subject matter we are working with","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5503.02,5507.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/792","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in here. Jonathan, thank you. \u003e\u003e It's a pleasure. [Applause]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5507.02,5517.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/793","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e Now, what we will do is take a break for a few minutes. We have promised this man a ride home,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5517.02,5523.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/794","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I want to be sure that he gets it. So take a break for five minutes or so, and then we are going","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5523.02,5531.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/795","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to talk about the interview we're going to talk about. \u003e\u003e 55B is just awful. I have a five-page","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5531.02,5539.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/796","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"four-problem problem set. It took two and a half hours last night to figure out what three of the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5539.02,5543.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/797","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"problems set. We think we might know how to do one of them. \u003e\u003e Okay. Are we all back in place?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5543.02,5551.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/798","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What a spectacular beginning, I must say. That was really, really something. And can I say one","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5551.02,5561.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/799","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"thing? The fact that he did his homework. I mean, the homework -- he did homework for us like we did","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5561.02,5567.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/800","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"homework for his questions. Let me tell you. \u003e\u003e He certainly did. 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And my reactions aren't so much -- the reactions","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5591.02,5595.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/805","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"can have to do with responding to ideas that came from him or else talking about technique and how","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5595.02,5601.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/806","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"things might have been handled. So we can go in either direction. 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When I've","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5607.02,5613.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/808","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"been there alone, when Kay and I have been there, when I've been there with -- when Professor","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5613.02,5617.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/809","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Shillamay and I have been there, when I've been there with Judith Clurman, who is the music","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5617.02,5621.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/810","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"director for the Bernstein Festival, the organ in the old synagogue, the West Roxbury Church, which was","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5621.02,5627.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/811","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"left behind, is what is often talked about. It's just like a mythic symbol in this congregation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5627.02,5635.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/812","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And just interesting that he brought it up and yet it's very much alive, that instrument, in the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5635.02,5641.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/813","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"congregation today. Another is Solomon Braslavsky, whom he mentioned, whom once you walk into the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5641.02,5647.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/814","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"synagogue in that temple, you realize, oh, this is really the meat of some major project, probably","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5647.02,5655.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/815","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"multiple major projects. There are letters there connected with Bernstein and his adulation and","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5655.02,5663.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/816","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"admiration for Braslavsky. There's manuscript music. There are programs from when Braslavsky","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5663.02,5669.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/817","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"conducted a WPA orchestra during the 1930s. The list just sort of goes on and on. And I've just gone","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5669.02,5675.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/818","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"through all of his folders. So anyway, it's just really exciting. Another one is -- of my random","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5675.02,5681.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/819","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"thoughts here going along. This is just a suggestion to all of you. He was talking about Zionism in","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5681.02,5687.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/820","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Boston. And if all of you go home and go to Humphrey Burton's biography, which I trust you all now","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5687.02,5693.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/821","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have in hand, and look at the section beginning in 1947, which is when Leonard made his first trip to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5693.02,5701.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/822","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Palestine, his father and his sister went with him. And there's a chronicle there, especially those","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5701.02,5707.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/823","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"early trips are really interesting to me. But there's, again, just a really interesting project here","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5707.02,5713.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/824","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in linking of Boston Zionism and Bernstein's own intense commitment and also ambivalent commitment","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5713.02,5721.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/825","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to Israel. It was both. Another was when he said that it was easier to do a conversion at Michigan","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5721.02,5727.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/826","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to Phila than at some other Boston synagogues. In fact, when Bernstein was married in 1952, his","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5727.02,5737.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/827","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"wife went through a conversion at Michigan to Phila. She was half Jewish by birth. My thoughts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5737.02,5743.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/828","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003e\u003e Several. I mean, for me, sort of one of the banner remarks was had he grown up in Cincinnati, the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5743.02,5751.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/829","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"story would have been completely different. In a sense, it's a rationale for the course. And that's","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5751.02,5755.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/830","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"why I pushed him on it a little bit. And also because in his book, there's been some critique of","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5755.02,5761.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/831","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the communities being presented as too similar. That there's too much of a single narrative for Judaism","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5761.02,5767.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/832","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and Jews in the states, while in fact, it's a whole bunch of very different stories in different urban","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5767.02,5773.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/833","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"areas and different regions. So that was very, very interesting. I have been taken since my","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5773.02,5779.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/834","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"conversation with him the other night, again today, of someone we had not suspected might be important","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5779.02,5785.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/835","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to this story, and that is Fiedler. I am really interested in Fiedler now, and I hope someone will look","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5785.02,5791.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/836","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"into this a little bit more. In fact, one thinks now of the description in the biographies about that","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5791.02,5797.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/837","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"first night at the Pops and hearing the Bolero. Was it hearing the work or was it seeing the Jewish","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5797.02,5805.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/838","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"character on the podium? I am deeply suspicious because of the way in which Bernstein related to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5805.02,5811.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/839","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"individuals and modeled himself on individuals, that that could be a very significant template.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5811.02,5817.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/840","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think it's one we had not in advance of the course. Perhaps you had, because you know so much","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5817.02,5823.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/841","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"more about this from your own work. But I am really into Fiedler now and think that this is something","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5823.02,5829.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/842","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that deserves our attention. The third thing is the way in which we have the possibility to","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5829.02,5835.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/843","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"use what we find out about the music to better historicize the subject. 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Then we can look at","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5847.02,5857.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/846","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the works, we can look at other repertory, and we can see if there's anything else lurking there","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5857.02,5861.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/847","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the Bernstein oeuvre that in fact is inspired by this music. 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This was not your","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5875.02,5882.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/850","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"standard ethnographic interview. This was sort of the best of both worlds. As close as you're going to get","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5882.02,5887.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/851","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to heaven on earth in an interview. I am the guy who knows everything about the subject matter and went","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5887.02,5892.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/852","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to the trouble to connect it to what we were interested in. But we all should remember at the end,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5892.02,5898.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/853","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and boy you guys did a terrific job and I thought the follow-up questions were fine. We should always","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5898.02,5904.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/854","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in some way say, is there anything we didn't ask you that we should have? Is there anything you want","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5904.02,5910.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/855","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to tell us about that we don't know about that you do? We should take particular pains to do this with","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5910.02,5918.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/856","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the folks who are coming in to share memories and experiences. And now I think we have some indications","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5918.02,5926.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/857","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of what we need to ask the second cousin, Sylvia, about on Friday, because she was at Friday night dinners,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5926.02,5934.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/858","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"she was at Sharon during the summers. We may even get her to sing. I think if we can get her to hum or sing","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5934.02,5941.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/859","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or anything, it would be ideal. So I guess those are my comments. What are yours? I think we wanted to know","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5941.02,5949.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/860","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what's the post mortem of this. Scott? If we can't get proud humility out of Sylvia, I'm sure there's a way","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5949.02,5957.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/861","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we can do a full text search and try and figure out where it comes up. That won't get us music, but it would","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5957.02,5963.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/862","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at least get us a source that we can then try and put to music. Good. Great idea. Mark?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5963.02,5969.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/863","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I also like this whole idea of Breslovsky as the influence, an influential cantor, and maybe just connecting","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5969.02,5976.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/864","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Breslovsky and Fiedler as influential stars. One thing I was thinking is, not only is it an influence on","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5976.02,5984.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/865","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bernstein, but it's an influence on his father to see Fiedler as a, it's almost like here's a cantor in the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5984.02,5992.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/866","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"professional world, making that connection that you can make money as a conductor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5992.02,5998.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/867","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, Breslovsky was not a cantor, though. He was an organist and choir director.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=5998.02,6002.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/868","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But he was a conductor, too. Yeah, and an orchestra conductor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6002.02,6006.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/869","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But he wasn't the cantor. He was not the cantor. No, there was a cantor in addition to Breslovsky.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6006.02,6012.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/870","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One thought that occurs to me in response to this, though, is how these are the silenced part of the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6012.02,6018.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/871","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"narratives that Bernstein put in front of the public. It's Koussevitzky. It's Aaron Copland.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6018.02,6023.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/872","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's even Mark Woodstein that he lauds in interviews and in public forums, and yet here, I mean, I think","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6023.02,6029.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/873","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Fiedler connection probably is very strong, but probably when he just, I would, what would you say,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6029.02,6035.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/874","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Aidan? I mean, I suspect it could have been really a troubling link for him in some ways to acknowledge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6035.02,6041.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/875","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think what you said is, I think it is a silent issue. I've looked through, for those of you who don't know me,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6041.02,6047.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/876","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm writing my dissertation on Arthur Fiedler, and I've looked through all of his archival materials,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6047.02,6053.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/877","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and there is some, there is very little correspondence with Bernstein. The little I found was over the","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6053.02,6061.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/878","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Palestine Symphony and invitations to conduct that orchestra. But there really isn't a personal connection.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6061.02,6068.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/879","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It wasn't like he was a mentor to Bernstein in a direct way, but I think he probably was a silent,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6068.02,6076.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/880","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"factor, influence, or at least a community figure that he would have been definitely in contact with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6076.02,6082.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/881","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, a role model, potentially. Yeah. An icon. An icon, right. Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6082.02,6087.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/882","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's just something, you know, if you think about the psychological import of episodic memories,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6087.02,6092.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/883","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of moments that imprint themselves and are meaningful, and the story of this first concert at Symphony Hall,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6092.02,6101.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/884","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I am very suspicious of, you know, because the conductor is so front and center, literally, in these events,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6101.02,6109.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/885","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, in the memories that Bernstein must have had. Those were not just musical memories.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6109.02,6114.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/886","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He did not identify openly as Jewish all the time. It's very conflicted.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6114.02,6123.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/887","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not as straightforward as Bernstein, even though that's even conflicted. So that's important.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6123.02,6130.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/888","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think Kara wanted to say something. No? You twitched. If you twitch, we'll call on you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6130.02,6136.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/889","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Other comments? Is there, yes, Derek.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6136.02,6140.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/890","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is sort of, I guess, meta, and it has less to do with the content and more about the delivery,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6140.02,6145.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/891","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"but it just struck me that, and I sort of noted that Professor Sarna often, at least in the first part of his talk,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6145.02,6156.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/892","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pronounced Bernstein very often, and later the question did come up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6156.02,6161.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/893","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't think he was, I mean, I know that he was pronounced often, but not exclusively,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6161.02,6165.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/894","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and I know that in terms of my sort of just being able to talk about it, you know,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6165.02,6170.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/895","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I've asked people which way to pronounce it, and I'm just sort of, I guess it struck me that maybe,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6170.02,6175.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/896","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"even as much as I've been told that Leonard Bernstein himself seemed to have wanted to pronounce","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6175.02,6183.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/897","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"one way, possibly Bernstein, I'm not sure. Oh, he did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6183.02,6187.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/898","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right, and we also discussed the Germanization of his father in that respect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6187.02,6193.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/899","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That, in a certain sense, it hasn't quite maybe taken as much hold or maybe 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This is for everybody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6458.02,6463.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/967","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, do we -- the next on our agenda here, items to get through with you, next is transcribing interviews.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6463.02,6469.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/968","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Do we need to say more about 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yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6637.02,6639.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/1026","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, my -- I have a connection actually through my grandparents as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6639.02,6644.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/1027","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My grandparents were neighbors to a woman named Ray Gavis, who was very old when I met 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P-E-R-L-E.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6699.02,6701.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/1036","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, it strikes me that in a sense we're also doing an ethnography of celebrity and the way in which celebrity plays out over so many lives.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6701.02,6710.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/1037","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, this is incredible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6710.02,6712.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/1038","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I actually have a Bernstein story from when I was growing up in Dallas, and the man who owned a very prosperous dress shop at that point,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6712.02,6719.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/1039","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"his favorite story was that he wanted to be a composer, and he was accomplished enough that he entered a contest, and he came in second.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6719.02,6727.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/1040","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And guess who he came in second to?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6727.02,6731.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/1041","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anyway, so it's really interesting as you watch how these stories filter out and the odd details that come in about Doberman Pinschers and so 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break.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6744.02,6747.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/1044","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Close family friends of mine hail from Boston, and the oldest member of that family is now in Michigan, where I grew up, is 78.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6747.02,6759.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/1045","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And she has still a lot of family here in Boston, travels here with some regularity, and may have some 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up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6786.02,6790.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/1050","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes? Oh, sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6790.02,6792.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/1051","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Just a question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6792.02,6793.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/1052","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is not meant to be a joke, but how interested are we in his personal life, i.e. his sexuality, which has raised a lot of questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6793.02,6799.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/1053","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because, I mean, I've heard rumors. I have a friend at New England Conservatory who mentioned that one of her professors was once very well acquainted with Leonard Bernstein.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=6799.02,6808.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/1054","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I haven't asked her about it recently, but I definitely would love to see where that came 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presentations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=8228.02,8232.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/1448","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I know they're not right upon us, but I'm just wondering if you see it as a team group presentation","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=8232.02,8239.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/1449","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or if we're each going to get our own slot, just in terms of thinking about whether the collaboration and the final 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one,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=8251.02,8259.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/1452","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"if, in fact, there's interaction between them, or there may be some other permutation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546#t=8259.02,8265.02"},{"id":"https://harvardmusiclib.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3452/collection_resources/160059/file/291546/transcript/84595/annotation/1453","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't think 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